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  FOX News    Americas Newsroom    News/Business. Bill Hemmer, Martha  
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    October 8, 2012
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now. the five top companies. >> pete: laura ingraham, the best. >> steve: fantastic. thank you very much for joining us on columbus day indeed. make is a great day. we know a lot of you are off today. continue to watch our friends in manage america's newsroom" on the fox news channel. >> pete: enjoy. >> steve: so long. hope had a great weekend everybody, because here we go again. the race is tightening for the white house and the next big showdown only days away. new poll numbers show governor romney with a post-debate bump. paul ryan getting ready for the faceoff against joe biden in the next big debate. i'm bill hemmer here. martha has the day off. >> i'm patti ann browne in for mart maing that -- martha maccallum. a veteran political strategist says joe biden will be going for the throat.
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>> they will be pouring cola down his throat. they will react. because they will have a couple days of bad polling. ryan has very impressive but hasn't done this before. biden who is high-wire act in attack mode which is not always his normal place. bill: joe cola. fox news contributor, good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: you believe this is huge opportunity for romney-ryan, why? >> it is. romney set the stage for the dominant victory over the president in the first presidential debate. that changed the story of the whole campaign. if you have ryan defeating the vice president joe biden it would really create a story of obama-biden on the ropes. and, romney-ryan on the move. bill: the way mike murphy explains it, republican strategist on "meet the press" sunday morning, democrats could be desperate. do you agree with that? >> they're certainly very
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worried. the degree of concern they had over the president's performance in denver is much deeper than we even thought. they're very, very worried about that. they're looking for joe biden to come out and deliver a lot of zingers and attack lines that barack obama didn't. this is the second chance in the presidential debate. there is not another actual presidential debate until october 16th. bill: listen how paul ryan explains how he sees vice president joe biden. >> he is fast on the cuff. he is a witty guy. he knows who he is and been doing this for 40 years. so, you're not going to rattle joe biden. joe biden has been on the national stage. he ran for president twice as sitting vice president. bill: probably a smart strategy. what he is saying there, be careful and do not underestimate the vice president, despite a reputation for having gaffs. >> well, this is what you always do. you talk up the other guy
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a lot of pick pubs believe he will clean joe biden's clock. paul ryan has mastery of the federal budget and fact and details. he has a way of connecting with middle class voters especially middle class voters struggling economically. he has a way of touching them. republicans should watch out for that. bill: a lot of stories will be written how vice-presidential debates do not matter. in this case those stories may be wrong. thank you, byron. byron york in washington. >> thank you, bill. bill: we have full coverage of thursday's vice-presidential debate from danville, kentucky. 9:00 p.m. eastern time. our coverage starts on the fox news channel. patti ann: you don't want to miss it. even president obama poking fun at himself over what many saw as his lackluster debate performance. let's listen. >> they just performed flawlessly night after night. i can't always say the same.
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[laughing] but, -- [cheers and applause] but here's the good news is, we've got a better vision for our country. [cheers and applause] we have a better plan for the next four years. patti ann: those comments coming at a fund-raiser in los angeles last night. bill: while pundits and campaign officials were apparently shocked by the poor performance of the president, brit hume says he was not surprised at all. know why's that? >> the barack obama i heard on that debate stage was the barack obama i've been listening to now for four years. he sounded very much like himself. i don't think he was terribly bad. i think he has a very weak case. i think that the circumstances in the country present the challenging candidate with all kinds of opportunities. mitt romney was on his game and he took advantage of those opportunities. the president is saddled with weak circumstances and
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therefore a weak case. it is not surprising to me didn't argue it very well. the other thing is, despite his reputation as being this world class orator, maybe he is with a set piece speech but there is not a lot of evidence in the past he was a great debater. we put those thing together, i don't think this was a big a shock as president's supporters on the left feel. he is not 10 feet tall and has never been. bill: candidates square off october 16th week and a half from now, long island, new york, at hofstra university. patti ann: the political winds may be shifting. governor romney enjoying quite a post-debate bounce. going past president obama in the rasmussen tracking poll. 49-to obama's 47. it was conducted at the end of the debate. scott rasmussen joins us with even fresher numbers. he will give them to us at the bottom of the hour at 9:30.
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bill: according to two professors at university of colorado new predictions for the 2012. project by two professors governor romney will win the election by picking up 330 electoral votes? they expect president obama will fall short with 208. you need 270 to win it all. university analyzes economic data and unemployment and income to make their predictions. that is about as bold we've seen so far. 330. patti ann: amid big concerns over the middle east and global unrest, governor romney is set to deliver this morning what his campaign is calling a major speech on foreign policy. we have our hands on a copy of his planned remarks. governor romney saying in part, quote, i know the president hopes for a safer, freer and more prosperous middle east allied with the united states. i share this hope but hope is not a strategy. that address is set for 11:20 eastern. we'll have much more on that coming up later on this show.
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>> certainly will. ann romney introducing governor romney, her husband at his event yesterday. she is happy that the presidential debate gave americans a chance to see her husband for the man she knows and loves. >> one thing i appreciated more than anything else at the con veges and at the debate a chance for the american people, what chance they got to see my husband as i see him. a good and decent person. [cheers and applause] that throughout his life has exhibited his care for others, and now we're going to get a chance for him to really care for others because we're going to have the chance to see him get people back to work again. [cheers and applause] bill: we're going to get the chance to see ann romney a bit later this week. martha sits down with her one-on-one later this week. you will see that interview
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in its entirety come wednesday morning on "america's newsroom". patti ann: california's governor is taking action as drivers deal with more record breaking prices at pump. prices soaring to an all-time high this weekend receiving an average of $4.67 for a gallon of regular. that number spiking 50 cents in just one week. california drivers are struggling with the jump. >> i think prices are ridiculous. >> people working, you know, they need a break. it's too high, it's way too high. >> i try not to drive unless i really have to. patti ann: stu varney is the host of "varney & company" and he joins us now with more on this spike in gas prices. good morning stu. >> good morning patti ann. the news this morning that the spike appears to have stopped. the other side of the coin there has been no retreat in gas prices in california. as you mentioned 4.67 is the statewide average. most calfornians when they go to fill up are paying $100 for that fill up.
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if you look at prices and how they spiked in key cities of california you can see what we're talking about here. for example, in san diego the average for regular now is 4.73. that is up 56 cents in a week. riverside up 54 cents in a week. orange county up 53 cents in a week. all of this taking place in a state that is basically broke with a very weak economy and a very high unemployment rate. it is not good news any way you slice it, patti ann. patti ann: stuart, the national average is much, much lower than that. why is california paying so much more? >> it is a very simple answer. this is a self-inflicted wound in california. they have very, very high emissions and environmental standards and they have to have a special blend of gasoline just for california. that means if there is any kind of problem with the refinerries, the 14 refinerries in california that make this special stuff they have got a supply problem and that's what's happened. they are paying roughly 15
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cents extra for every single gallon that is consumed in california. that is because of these environmental rules. now that gets even worse in november when california's cap-and-trade rules go into effect. that will mean another hike in the price of gasoline in california. patti ann: wow! big issues there. stu varney, fox business, thank you. >> sure. bill: stinks to be paying that. fox news alert now. a fierce critic of the united states for years will remain in power. >> speak [speaking in native tongue] bill: socialist president hugo chavez winning a third term, turning back the most serious challenge to his office in 14 years. his margin of victory, much narrower than usual. his challenger promised to take venezuela in a whole new direction. there are many questions how this all went down with
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accusations on widespread election fraud. steve hair began on that story much later. we're just getting started, patti ann. patti ann: possible break about a missing little girl in colorado a new clue leading the investigation into a brand new direction. bill: what one lawmaker found at on his own fact-finding mission in the country only a day before congressional hearings start this week. patti ann: has the campaign momentum shifted into republican governor romney's favor. the candidate enjoying rock star status on the trail. massive crowds meeting him on every stop. so has the game changed? a fair and balanced debate coming up. >> he wants another stimulus? how did the officers one work out? we know where that leads. we've seen the last four years. we don't want four more years like the last four years. [cheers and applause] [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso.
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patti ann: new details revealed in the death of u.s. border agent nicholas ivie. the national boarder patrol union confirming friendly fire was the cause of death. ivie opened fire on two fellow agents thinking they were armed smugglers. he was killed when they shot back. his commander and family remembered his bravery during vigils over the weekend. >> i explained to agent ivie's family that if the investigation reaches that conclusion and that agent ivie gave the ultimate is being nice and served his countried. >> we'll know we will be able to see him again. that definitely is what is carrying us through. patti ann: the two sets of agents had approached an area where a censor had been triggered in southern arizona near the border. funeral proceedings for nicholas ivie get underway this morning. bill: governor romney riding
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a wave of momentum after his performance last week in that big debate number one. the crowds are getting bigger at campaign events. about 12,000 greeting him in port st. lucie, florida, the east coasts atlantic side. 3,000 in the overflow rooms. the republican nominee getting rock star treatment there and sensing that the white house could be within his grasp. >> you will have the chance to hear his answers or his nonanswers. [laughter] now of course, days later we're hearing his excuses. next january we'll be watching him leave the white house for the last time. chaup [cheers and applause] bill: from gallup the race a dead-heat after heat number one. where as before, president obama, in the middle column had a five-point lead. is it a whole new ballgame. kirsten powers. and tony sayegh, president
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of talk radio news service. good morning to both of you. what do you i this, tony. new game. what do you think?. >> the proof is in the pudding. i'll say this is not something that was anticipated a week ago. many people thought governor romney at best may be able to hold his own during these debates. we actually thought governor romney would have to face the fact that the media would have given the debate to president obama regardless. now you see completely counter narrative from both sides universally agreeing that he hit the knockout blow on president obama and a five-point spread in one week in gallup. i know you will have scott rasmussen said in a few minutes. the race is two point advantage for romney, pulled ahead in virginia, and pulled ahead in florida and closed gap significantly in ohio. playing off fence at right time. you have to have a good october to be president. bill: you mentioned three big states. we'll get to that in 10 minutes time. kirsten, what do you think about the mo? is it now in mitt's favor? >> right now it is, yeah but
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i think you have to bear in mind this could shift again just as quickly if in the next debate president obama does very well. so i don't know that this is something that you should take as being, a permanent shift but it is definitely gotten mitt romney, back in the game i think before it was sort of drifting, the momentum was drifting toward obama. certainly if you looked at the battleground states and now you're seeing there is a battleground poll out today, they're neck-and-neck. so i think, a race is on what i would say. bill: i see. what rasmussen was saying last week. give me sunday morning or monday because you need three days of rolling averages to really reflect something that is accurate. but, tony, what gallup is putting out today, they put a post-debate performance question, and they had never seen in their history before seen such a jump or such a one-sided victory going back to 1992, 20 years ago.
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>> absolutely, bill. this was a game ink thatting moment without a doubt. even the focus groups taken that night were giving results that commentators were saying, we've done focus groups since the beginning of election. never has there been confirmed affirmative support of one candidate as a result of one performance. this is exactly why right now you see the president of and his campaign starting to grasp for straws. they're getting to the point they're getting a little desperate. trying to create this impression mitt romney lied his way through the debate. only one party says one thing or another that might not be totally factually true. you have ultimately the end of the day governor romney in front of the american people same stage on the president seeming like a viable alternative something he was not able to do prior. bill: to that point you mentioned there. james clyburn, romney's performance featured dramatic departure from campaign record and proposals and complete disregard for truth an hone
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necessity. january shadiscuss ski from illinois, romney is simply lying -- jan schakowsky. so, kirsten is this the strategy, liar, liar, pants on fire until you can prove the smoke's out or what? >> it was a strategy from the word go, basically. as soon as the debate ended that is what --. bill: from the word go when the debate ended? got it. continue. >> yeah. you could see right away liberal bloggers were clearly had been given this direction and were, you know, claiming that everything that romney had said was a lie and then you click on the stories and think, isn't quite like the overwhelming case that he lied about everything that you're trying to make but, you know i think there are certain things that he --. bill: does that stick other does that just look bad? doesn't that look like negative politics? >> well the thing is, calling someone a liar in politics, there, it may be
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only lying, you're not, people really don't cross. you can say they exaggerate which they did with al gore which was very effective. bill: you would question that strategy based on that answer? >> sure i absolutely would. look if the media gets on board wit it and starts weaving it into every story that he is a liar, absolutely it will cause problems for him. i just don't know even if this media would get on board with something so heavy-handed. bill: we'll watch them. >> would be exaggerating. bill: i've got to go. i will get cut off. five seconds. >> we said same thing when bill clinton delivered his very effective speech at convention. it was full of lies. you know why we did it? to distract from the efact that it was effective. bill: see you later in the week. >> are the polls tighter than we think? we brand new numbers on what is a neck-and-neck race. scott as sues men will talk about the changing political
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bill: so here's a new chapter. a private rocket ship blasting off to the international space station. >> three, two, one. and liftoff. liftoff of the spacex falcon 9 rocket launching dragon to the international space station and returning cargo resupply missions to u.s. soil. bill: now that's a beautiful sight at night, isn't it? the first of a dozen supply
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runs to the space station. the company launching the rocket is under contract with nasa. let's hope everything goes well. patti ann: a dramatic jump in the number of cases of the rare fungal meningitis. it is an outbreak sweeping the u.s. according to centers for disease control there are 91 cases across nine states. they're linked to contaminated steroid injections commonly used to treat back pain. at least seven people are dead. jonathan serrie is live now in atlanta. hi, jonathan. so how widespread is this? >> reporter: good morning, patti ann. so far the cases reported are in the eastern half of the country. want to show you this map again. the cdc has confirmed 91 cases associated with this meningitis outbreak in these nine states and a total of seven deaths have been reported across four states. those states are michigan, tennessee, maryland and virginia. patti ann? patti ann: what is the source, jonathan, of the outbreak? >> reporter: well this is a
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very rare form of meningitis. unlike other forms, bacterial and viral, this particular form is not spread from person-to-person. instead federal health officials have traced it to a fungus and, they believe that somehow medication that was compounded at the new england compounding center, a specialty pharmacy in massachusetts, somehow became contaminated with this fungus. the patients getting sick had all received epidural injections for lower back pain at health care facilities that received shipments of a steroid from that pharmacy sometime between july and september. we have another map to show you indicating at least 23 states received the shipments in question. now, because this particular form of meningitis has a long incubation period that can last anywhere from one to four weeks, even though this particular medication had been recalled earlier,
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we may see some additional cases as we go into late october. patti ann? patti ann: troubling story. jonathan serrie, thank you. bill: we mentioned this 10 minutes ago. there are brand new polling numbers show governor romney where he stand after this first big debate, closing the gap perhaps in some of these battleground states. scott rasmussen joins us with his own numb business, brand new, next. music: "make someone happy" music: "make someone happy" ♪it's so important to make someone happy.♪ ♪'s so important to make meone happy.♪ ♪make just one someone happy ♪and you will be happy too. [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good.
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patti ann: a fox news alert now. brand new poll numbers just coming in and they show governor romney closing the goop nationally, now in a statistical dead heat with the president. let's take a look at the latest survey from rasmussen reports. the governor with 46%. the president 47%. that is within the margin of error. and scott rasmussen, independent pollster, president of rasmussenreports.com, also author of, the people's money, joining us right now. thanks for being with us. >> patti ann, it's great to be with you. when we push the uncommitted voters and ask them which way they're leaning, the results get closer 48-48. to put this in context, when we go back over last 100 days of tracking the two candidates have been within three points of each other 89 times out of 100. this race is very, have he close and very stable. patti ann: yeah. that's for sure.
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so that is your daily tracking. romney at 46, obama, at 47. let's look at president obama's job approval rating. you say now, total approval rating, 51%. disapprove, 49. how has that changed? >> that has been inching up slightly. in fact most of the last three years the president has been around 47, 48%. he has been gaining a little ground in the last few weeks, due to consumer confidence going up. patti ann, very important to note, since last friday's job approval, jobs report, consumer confidence has really spiked. and it's especially notable among unaffiliated voters. before that report, two out of three unaffiliated said that the economy was getting worse. down to 45% today. the president getting a little bounce of his own from the jobs report. patti ann: interesting. look at all important swing states. daily tracking poll for the seven day's ending october 6th. romney at 47%. obama at 48. still very tight.
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>> that's right. what we'll see, by definition swing states are the closest ones. they will be close to the national average. if the national numbers stay close, the swing states will stay close. if i was romney campaign the one i would be worrying about still is ohio because that's a state where president obama is still outperforming his national numbers and ohio could be the device i sieve state once again in the college. patti ann: let's look specifically at president obama's approval rating in the swing states. it is 50/50, right down the middle. >> it is right down the middle. this is still primarily an election about the incumbent, a referendum on him. last wednesday in the debate, mitt romney presented himself as an acceptable alternative. that is helping his numbers overall but the president is still the defining factor in this race. right now americans are split right down the middle whether they want to keep him or fire him. patti ann: talk about that so-called debate bounce that romney got. looking back historically,
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when a candidate is perceived to have won a debate, how long does that bounce last? >> there has not really been any record of an event like the debate we had last wednesday night. four years ago there was absolutely no debate bounce. eight years ago very modest because we haven't seen a challenger win so decisively. we do know most bounces in and of themselves last less than a week in today's 24, 7 news environment. patti ann: we'll see what happens after the upcoming vice-presidential debate and beyond. >> it will be interesting. patti ann: yeah, that's for sure. thank you as always for joining us with the very latest numberss. bill: he was telling us last week to wait until monday morn. very interesting how that develops. the break in a case of a missing 10-year-old girl. jessica ridgeway is her name. police say jessica was last seen on friday morning walking to school and then she vanished. police extended their search into the town of superior, colorado. that is a bit north of denver after discovery of a
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new clue there. alicia acuna is own the story live in denver now. good morning. >> reporter: hi, good morning, bill. westminster police say that on sunday someone in the neighboring suburb of superior found a backpack and a water bottle on a sidewalk. now investigators won't say what they found inside the backpack but they do believe it belongs to 10-year-old jessica ridgeway who disappeared on her walk to meet friends to head to their school bus stop on friday. more than 800 volunteers searched for her over the weekend. police expanded their search area where the backpack was found, more than six miles away from where jessica vanished. she was last seen by her mother friday morning as she watched her daughter head off from the front of her home. jessica's father lives in missouri and was at a child custody hearing that day. police went to the home where she shares with the great-grandmother. >> to ask to look through my house if there was any signs that she had been there.
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of course she hadn't been. we would have loved to have had her there but that didn't happen. if anyone out there knows where she's at, please, please return her. >> reporter: investigators have since ruled out any connection to the custody hearing, bill. bill: wow! what about authorities focusing today and the fbi is involved as well? is that right? >>. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. the fbi got on board over the weekend. investigators were working overnight and searching. that search continues this morning. bloodhounds are also on the case. investigators say that they are going to once again go door-to-door in westminster. that is the suburb where jessica lives. they're doing this also in superior where that backpack was found. initially cops are asking the school district for help on this. they want to know kids who know jessica or go to school with her heard or seen anything that might appear suspicious of the they are not at that point asking for any additional volunteer searchers. bill? bill: let's hope for the best. skun -- alicia acuna live in
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colorado. patti ann: search for answers after the deadly attack in libya. congress set to hold hearings into the terrorist attack that killed four americans. subpoenas just went out. lawmakers are especially interested hearing from one man. we'll tell you who it is hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios
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adios, sayonara, aloha. it's boring. he's gone. okay. out of there. may have been bushes fault for the first year. maybe two. but not 3 1/2. patti ann: percentage from the proceeds from the soldout event went to charity. bill: see more of that later tonight in prime time. seems like they have a good time together. they have good chemistry from the right and from the left. check out o'reilly later tonight and the good news about that. big winners in the debate? patti ann: charity. bill: charity. this could be a big deal this week. a house committee holds a hearing to find out exactly what happened in the deadly libya terror attack. the lawmakers subpoenaed following men, lieutenant colonel andy wood. he was in libya. he is now home to testify before congressional investigators. he served as the u.s. top security official in libya. mike baker, former cia
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covert operations now with diligence llc. good morning to you. you don't know this man, right. >> no, i don't. bill: what would he have done in libya? what would i know? >> he led up, the sf security team that was deployed out there i believe from early this year, probably february of this year. so, you know, six or seven months. they took off in august. they left libya in august. now the fact that they had a 16 person sf team out there, along with additional personnel from state for that period of time, it tells you that they understood this was a kay attic, dangerous, pseudo war zone. it was very, very unstable. and, again we have to remember, these people were primarily based in tripoli and benghazi, where the attack took place is about a thousand kilometers of bad dessert highway away. it is a outpost in completely different part of this country, cut off and
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very remote from tripoli and this security element left in august despite the personnel in libya, the state department officials and others in libya asking for better security. bill: well, woods will tell these investigators, the house committee, that he met with stevens all the time. >> right. bill: so what he's going to do now, he will lay out a story and situation and scenario and where stevens all likelihood expressed danger he felt to his own life, right? that makes sense. >> absolutely. i don't want to sound overly cynical here but frankly washington, d.c. appears to be the black hole of investigations. where all investigations go to fade away and disappear. we get caught up in some other moment of outrage. but this is not, this is not a typical process. they should and i would hope, that they have, already, demanded all the cable traffic that bounces between benghazi and tripoli and washington, d.c., the state department headquarters, for the past year, ever since they set up the consulate in
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benghazi. get all the cable traffic. you review that. then you review any cable traffic that was related by the department of security at state department and the security team led by lieutenant colonel wood and get any of that information. bill: what that does, that takes you inside their conversations? >> it takes you inside their conversations. bill: mike, what would that tell you? >> it would tell you, i suspect, admittedly we have to step back a little bit okay, let this process go, but it has got to go. it can't just disappear. we have to keep beating the drum. what it will tell you likely the officials there understood perfectly well there was a very volatile situation in benghazi. there was increasing number of attacks. senior state department officials say, well, some of those were just minor attacks. in fact i saw one senior state department official, this attack in benghazies there were so many attackers, it was so violent, no way a diplomatic consulate or outpost could
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have defended from it as if that was some kind of excuse. bill: the wires, why would they not have the communications already? a simple question, are they difficult to obtain? could the department of state stonewall? >> well they could, yes. given what the white house's narrative was from the outset after this attack, i would assume they're not particularly eager to hand this over. look they knew, the white house can not be so stupid nor could senior officials at the state department as to believe that narrative that they threw out there at the very beginning to say this was all some spontaneous outrage over the video. they understood that a year ago they failed to do the job they should do in securing that consulate and providing adequate protection and that's --. bill: to that point that is incriminating for the administration. when you think about wood was, he arrived in february, left in august, and he suggested somewhere along line that they did not want to leave and security was an issue. >> right. bill: and i don't think that was just benghazi. that could have been tripoli, as you point out is much different from benghazi
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itself. now we know benghazi was in much more precarious matter. >> right. bill: but he's also going to say they communicated to the state department about this danger and that the request for greater security were denied. if he goes under oath and said that, that's a bombshell, is it not? >> right, well if he doesn't go under oath and say it and he's already indicated all these things that you just said, he already said that to the press, then we've got a serious problem. then you have to ask why, you know, there might be a change there but i don't think that's going to be the case. you know, he was in a very difficult position. you give those guys an awful lot of credit. they were out there. they were provided security. a necessary function, a job that was critically important. again i go to the same thing. if the state department, you know, didn't understand that it was such an unstable location, they would have had just a couple of regional security officers from state department out
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there and small marine security guard detachment and called it good. they had a significant security force out there which they then chose despite a deteriorating situation they then chose to pull out of there despite the requests from the people inside. this has got to be a serious problem for the white house. bill: well, if that's what he says it has to be defended by someone also within the administration, whether the white house or the state department. >> absolutely. but what you've got to do, you have to figure out where that path leads you to. admittedly they have to go through the process. i said same thing. it is not rocket science. you get all the cable traffic bouncing around. that gives you what you need then to sit down have interviews with people such as loot come they wood out there -- lieutenant colonel wood leading this force. department of state out there with maybe mobile security team. talk with the secure officer. and talk to people actually deployed in benghazi. you have all the information you need and --. bill: mike baker, live to us
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today. to our viewers at home the story is not going away. hem ear@foxnews.com. on twitter, @billhemmer. leave your question about or anything else that's on your mind. patti ann: matt kenseth may have won the race but a massive pileup turning tony stewart upside down literally at tall daigh gachlt we'll bring you amazing video. bill: tough times for california drivers, not nascar. >> well, it's pretty crazy. >> went up pretty high last week. >> jump them up real quick and takes them longer to get them back down. pretty ridiculous. bill: how much higher will they go? we're live in the golden state. patti ann: early voting off to a rough start in a key battleground states. the lawyers are already going at it.
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bill: this was a wild ride for nascar. check it out sunday afternoon. >> kenseth, harvey behind him. stewart into the middle of the pack and over!. bill: man. 25 cars caught up in that. that was nascar defending champ tony stewart going airborne too. he triggered the pile up in the final lap. luckily not a single driver was hurt. matt kenseth ended up winning under caution flag. talladega known for dangerous crashes and wild finishes. many drivers caught in the crash are calling for nascar to make safety changes at that track. patti ann: incredible. early voting is underway in ohio and already the lawyers are involved. the whole process is tangled up in lawsuits. the stakes are huge. the buckeye state is a rich prize in electoral votes
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with 18. you need 270 to win the presidency. mike tobin right now joins us live from chicago. mike, things getting messy in ohio now? >> reporter: paty an we'll keep a close eye on the secretary of state's office in the buckeye state. secretary of tate, john huston, a republican, yet to decide if he will appeal a federal court ruling handed down on friday that overturned early restrictions on early voting. ohio lawmakers wanted polls to close in the weekend leading up to the election. >> there needed to be a window so local boards could account where the ballots were, make sure the voting rules were synchronized so when the poll books went out to polls on tuesday on election day that nobody could vote twice. that we knew who already voted and rolls had integrity. >> reporter: now democrats filed suit saying restrictions reduce the opportunity to vote for considerable segment of voting population. for instance, churches, that
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inintended on buses voters to the early voting locations. court agreed in essence polling locations should be able to handle the work load there was no argument justifying restrictions. >> collapsing the early voting schedule and eliminating weekend hours for voting you're disenfranchising a entire group of individuals, hose individuals who work during the day. those individuals who have kids that they have to pick up and take to school. those individuals who don't have access to transportation. >> reporter: now we're waiting to see if this continues as a messy lawsuit that takes us into final days before the election, or, leaves us with loose ends on election today, patti ann? patti ann: mike there, is military aspect to the argument here? >> reporter: there was is a military aspect because the military are exception. the militarily could have the votes counted in the final days up to the election. democrats argued it was unconstitutional to allow the military vote while
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restricting the civilian vote. patti ann. patti ann: mike tobin live in chicago. bill: governor romney is expected to come out hard against president obama and what his campaign label ad major foreign policy address. we'll have that live. brit hume drops by, mondays with brit as he analyze. >> all eyes on the vice-presidential debate coming up with the president flopping at the first faceoff, pundits agree joe biden will have to come to play and they expect hill to. how will ryan respond. >> people think of him as the gaffe guy. i think that underestimates joe biden. he is very good, what paul ryan said there is true. he has been doing this 40 years. he will be on message. [ male announcer ] are you considering a new medicare plan?
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america's live on a monday, columbus day. how are you doing? >> i'm patti ann brown in for martha maccallum today. the governor begins in an hour. his remarks range from hopes for peace in the middle east to suspect things about the attack on 9/11 in libya. he says, the attacks on libya should not be seen as random acts. they are attacks that are playing out across the broader middle east. bill: he says i believe america does not lead others will follow. i think what that goes to is the power vacuum that is now open for moscow or beijing, or perhaps a fundamentalist group
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to fill that power vacuum. and all the hot spots that pop up around the world, how do you think governor romney can make that case? >> i think he can make a reasonable argument there. i've read the excerpts of the speech made available and they seem to be effective language to criticize the administration on a number of points and create a contrast, not only on things like the response in benghazi, and the attitude toward the larger middle east, but also toward the relationship with israel and so forth. as i was looking at it and trying to think of governor romney trying to defend these points in a debate, say, when we've got one of those coming up next week. bill: that's right. >> look what he said on afghanistan, not to change the subject on you, bill, but he talked about retaining basically the withdrawal timetable of 2014, then he went onto criticize the president implicitly by saying that he, romney, would listen to the generals.
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well the generals did recommend that, but he appears at this point unwilling to reverse it because he would leave himself open to the charge that he's for an endless war. i can well imagine things that president obama would have to say that he says what this speech indicates he's going to say. bill: i guess then the more appropriate question is, are there clear lines of distinction in policy between these two men? >> well, there are. there are. he wants a tougher stance toward iran, he wants tougher sanctions. the president would presumably say he wants tougher sanctions too. butt implicit message of the romney remarks that we've seen is that he would be far more prepared to -- with allies to invoke military force than the president is, and that's been sort of part of the romney pitch so far on foreign policy toward iran. this is tricky, bill, because when you do that you have a war
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wary nation. we've been through the adventure in iraq which people grew very tired of and has been brought to a conclusion, how good of a conclusion remains to be seen. we've got the situation in afghanistan, which is either bad or not so bad depending on who you're listen to, but which has also been going on for a longtime and the president wants to get us out of here. americans are suspicious of foreign adventures. every time you talk about using force the word war comes to mind and people don't like wars you have to be very careful doing that. and romney has a fine line to walk. bill: he is going to say, i. the hopes for a safer middle east allied with the united taeuts, i share this hope but hope is not a strategy. couple that now with what he has said on the trail for a month. go out and find somebody who voted for the president four years ago and try to change their mind.
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with that now we have this ad ad that is airing in battleground states. >> i'm disappointed in barack obama as my president, because he promised to bring us all together, that we were all going to be able to prosper, i don't see the prospering. in 2008 i voted for barack obama, he doesn't have my note this time. >> he did not correctly say that in debate number one. should he in two or three? >> what, say -- bill: go out and find somebody for the president and talk them into voting differently. >> that is a message you give your supporters and on the stump. it's a message you might use in an ad. it's not something you would necessarily say in a debate when you're contending with the other candidate. my sense about that is they are looking at the margin of victory, they are looking at where they are going to get enough votes to over take the president, and they are looking at, you know, the republicans who are all going to be with him
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and a significant share of the independents. so where are they going to get those people? they have to turn some obama 08 voters into romney voters. that ad is aimed straight at that. you'll notice the message on the screen during that ad was about jobs for women. bill: yeah. thank you, brit hume. bill: they are looking at voter enthusiasm polls too which show a favor towards republicans and we'll see whether or not that stands up in 30 days or so. we'll see you a bit later today, and we'll watch governor romney's speech 11:20am eastern time and get your reaction on that. we'll talk to a senior advice eupl for thadviser for the romney team. that is come up on fox. >> turkey returning fire on syria after another mortar rounds hits turkish territory.
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this is the 6th straight day of tur kirk retaliation. this is the season as rebels fire guns into the air celebrating victory after driving regime forces out of a town. four rebel units surround ep surrounded the arm's he's position. vehicles and weapons left behind by the fleeing forces. bill: iran is under a different kind of assault as an oil official there confirms they successfully blocked a cyber attack on a computer network for one of is i. tip. platforms. one source blames israel for the attack. the attack occurred over the past two weeks it said. >> proximate news alert out of venezuela, there are allegations of voter fraud as hugo chavez claims victory for a third term as president. with 54% of the vote the margin of victory is the slimmist yet
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for chavez. exit polls showed chavez oozing. they showed pictures of the military deploying tanks in the street. what kind of mandate does this victory give chavez? >> reporter: hugo chavez won this election by ten points. that is a significant victory but certainly a lot less than he won by six years ago. he won by 27 points. they say this was not a fair elections shall they say he used state controlled television to put himself on television and billions of dollars of state controlled oil money to buy votes. he has a core support of more than 50% inside venezuela, especially venezuela's poor. the big question for hugo chavez is will his tell the hold up for another six year term. he has fought cancer for years. there is no one in his party
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that can step in and relays him if he can't serve the full six years. patti ann: what does this mean for the united states in. >> it has a positive, it is a relatively peaceful election. there was more than an 80% turn out in venezuela, people waited in line for hours, and after it was over the looser said he lost the election. they are not gun fighting it out on the streets. the u.s. gets 10% of its oil from venezuela. i think the we will concern is over foreign policy. we'll have an emboldened hugo chavez who has been building an alliance with iran. he's likely to step further in that direction after this victory. patti ann: steve harrigan reporting live in miami. thank you. bill: gas prices now california hitting an all time high, twice just over the weekend alone record-breaking $4.67. that's for the cheap stuff. this is a 50-cent increase for gallon in the last seven days, a
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problem that has only got even worse when president obama promised to bring rerelief four years ago. >> gas prices are mostly an annoyance but to most americans they are a huge problem bordering on a crisis. here in indiana gas costs $3.60 a gallon. across the country gas costs more than at any time in almost 30 years. as the president i will work to solve this energy crisis once and for all. bill: that was april of 2008. adam house here streams live at a gas station in l.a. what is behind this surge, adam? >> well, bill, first of all you'd be hardpressed to find gas prices anywhere in los angeles under 4.50 a gallon. if you found some a lot of people would race there to get gas. on the west side of los angeles over into the valley in the last day most gas prices are.65, 470 and above. the reason is not just demand there is also the issue of
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several refineries that have gone off line in the last month or two. a big fire in a refinery up in the bay area back in august covered by fox. that caused a significant issue as well as a few others. you can't import gas from outside of california. they have more stringent standards, we have two standard, one for the summer, one for the winter. the winter being a little mores year. the governor has allowed the winter standards to come online a little bit earlier. it might help prices but nothing will change until refineries come back online. bill: what are you hearing from folks? they can't be happy, 4.50 at a minimum? >> i drove down the state of california yesterday and stopped at a couple of gas stations on interstate 5, everybody was complaining, even at the cheap gas stations. this one here on santa monica boulevard the cheap stuff is 4.99. if you want to put premium in your car you pay 5.19. a couple of gas station -ts do
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stations down the street it's 54.99, 5.09 a gallon. >> it's really out of control. it's almost five bucks a gallon. >> how the of control, and once again the governor says that they will change to the winter standards, but most gas price analysts say it will be several weeks before it comes back down and i may not come down that much. bill: the golden state not so golden. all that gold is running out of your pockets. here is patti ann. patti ann: gas prices in california much higher than the rest of the country. according to aaa the national average for regular gas is 1.82 cents. when you look at the receipts of the country seven states passing the four dollar mark for a gallon of regular and threatening to become the norm in at least 15 other states.
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the average in those states more than $3.90 a gallon. bill: did you fill up over the weekend? patti ann: no i have a hybrid i don't fix up that much. bill: $86 for the cheap stuff in new york. patti ann: what do you have a hummer. bill: it's a car. 19-gallons of gasoline right there. that's how expensive it is. expectations high for this week's vice presidental debate. will joe biden this any zingers like this one sth. >> jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. bill: does this year's vp debate carry more weight than normal? patti ann: also, why hundreds of retirees are now clashing with police in greece. bill: police are saying they stopped an apparent terror attack just in time after finding a man with maps of several churches and material needed to make multiple bombs.
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bill: they are pweurpbg u.s. flags and the eu flags in the streets of athens, greece this morning. apparently these are hundreds of retirees clashing with the police during a protest against looming budget cuts in athens. greece is currently being forced to roll out harsh new austerity measures in exchange for another massive rescue loan from the european union. about $17.5 billion worth. don't know why they are burning our flag. what have we got to do with us? patti ann: always blame us. there is a growing consensus that this week always vice presidental debate might carry
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more wai eat than usual after the president admitted his performance was anything but flawless. they say biden will come out swinging. >> i think people ought to realize that joe biden is a gifted orater, very good at rhetoric. he is very relatable. they are two different people and it will be a great night. patti ann: joining us now larry sabato the director of the virginia center for politics. thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks. >> we just heard reince priebus saying biden is a gifted oraator, but we know he can get in trouble when speaking off the cuff. what do you think of biden. >> we will be on gaffe patrol. there is a long, long list of biden gaffes. we want to see whether he adds to it. the other thing that is a danger for bind is he could become too aggressive in the debate. remember, he's trying to make up
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for what democrats are calling the dud in denver. he has to live down his boss' performance in denver where as paul ryan has to live up to his boss r-r performance in denver. the pressure is really on both of them. patti ann: the expectations game. paul ryan known as a wonk. people are expecte expecting him to come out with statistics. do you think he will be a good debater? >> he certainly had experience in congress. i think he'll be prepared on domestic issue. his weakness may be foreign policy. biden was chairman of the foreign policy division of the senate for many years, a committee that handled foreign policy in the senate, so i think for paul ryan, who has not had much experience in foreign affairs, he has to have been briefed carefully on those issues. biden will try to trip him up
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there. patti ann: this may be entertaining. we might all tune in for it, but how important is the vice presidental debate? >> in terms of changing votes, it's not very. it probably won't make a lot of difference in terms of votes, but, look, people got really intrigued with the debates this year because of what happened last week, and you had this enormous audience showing up, 67 million. so people are following this narrative, and it's really up to the vice presidental contenders to continue the narrative, to keep them interested so they'll tune in to the following week's presidential debate. patti ann: you know, the media tends to cling to one or two memorable lines. we just showed some of them from debates in past years that still stick with people, but again, i guess the question is, even if somebody comes out with a really good zinger, is that going to change the way an individual voter who is watching that debate cast their vote come
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election da day for the man at the top of the ticket? no, not for the vast majority of voters. look, vice presidental nominations are have it cal as we alare critical because a vice president can become president, as we look back in history. it's up to these men to support their presidential nominee. to draw out the other side, to cause them, if possible, to maker ors, but at least to stress the key themes of the presidential nominee, and i suspect that's what they both will do but they have very different styles. this will be a combination of hot and cold, and will we get the porrage just right as a result? we'll have to tune in and see. patti ann: keep the focus on the top of the ticket we'll see have see what happens. larry sabato thank you. of course don't forget to tune in. we are going to have special coverage of that vice presidental debate this thursday night starting 8:55pm eastern
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right here on fnc. bill: would you go anywhere else? how many millions tuned in last week. patti ann: i know. bill: was it 10? 70 overall but higher for the fox news channel, 10.5 million. see what i'm talking about? mitt romney about to deliver what his campaign says will be a major speech b. one of mitt romney's top advisers joins us on that. what can we expect to hear? patti ann: a wedding day tragedy, a guest dies after a massive brawl breaks out between two separate wedding parties. how could this happen? >> people bunches, cops coming in trying to restrain people, it was unbelievable. the only thing they could do is control it once they started. >> i saw they put some people in handcuffs down on the main lobby.
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patti ann: tragedy at a philadelphia wedding. a 57-year-old man suffering a fatal heart attack during a huge brawl between two wedding parties in the lobby of a hotel last night. police had to come in to break up the fight. witnesses say it was chaos. police say members of one wedding party got caught newspaper a fight among members of the other wedding party. in the end three people were taken away in cuffs, and the man who suffered the heart attack died. bill: wow. some of that video man is unbelievable. hope they don't get together for thanksgiving. pressures mounting on eric holder to speak out on laws wanting to loosen marijuana laws. they are set to decide whether or not to decriminalize pot possess. holder criticized california's laws two years ago. dan springer is on this. how close are the two states to
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passing legalization, dan in. >> i tell you, bill, right now legalization is leading in the polls in two of those states, in washington in colorado, it's trailing in oregon. the folks who are trying to keep marijuana illegal are getting badly out spent especially here in washington state where it's $6,000 to $4 million. most of the politicians inee seattle are for it. even the childrens alliance endorsed legalization saying drug laws are enforced unevenly and are hurting the minorities and poor. >> if those kids parents are shutout of housing and employment and ed indication alopportunities for not helping those kids. >> critics say just the opposite, that if more kids are exposed to marijuana, usage among kids will go up, bill. bill: has the obama administration taken a position on this. stkphapb. >> president obam on this dan? >> president obama has never been in favor of marijuana usage
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or recreational use. but the white house and the justice department have been silent on these ballot initiatives. eric holder was sent a letter urging him to speak out. he has not. we've been trying for a weak to get a comment and we are still waiting. >> it is shocking that attorney general holder, that the director, but most of all that the president of the united states can't talk about this. look, it's about health, it's about safety, it's about the future of our country. >> a big question, if it passes in one or two of these states is will the fed step in and enforce federal drug laws because of course bill it will still be illegal according to the federal government even if it's legal in a couple of these dates. bill: thank you. dan springer is on that story in the state of washington, seattle. patti ann: governor romney's speech on foreign policy is under an hour away. it comes on the heels of a big
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patti ann: fox news alert. we are just under an hour from what the romney campaign is calling a major speech and foreign policy. chief political correspondent carl cameron is live in lexington, virginia. carl, we've got even some of his remarks in advance. it sounds like he's planning a broad criticism of the president. what else do we know? >> indeed, mr. romney will say that the nation cannot afford another four years of threats to its security based on another four more years of obama administration foreign policy. among other things mr. romney today will say that hope is not a strategy. he will tick off a number of international hot spots with specific criticism of the president's handling of it. he'll talk about libya and at attack on benghazi and how the obama administration was reluctant to say it was terrorism and argued for some time that it was a mob riot sparked by an anti-islam video. he'll talk about the need for the u.s. to be more supportive of israel than president obama has been. he has accused the president time and again of throwing both
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benjamin netanyahu and israel under the bus. he will say the palestinians deserve support and there needs to be u.s. support and further advancement of a two-state solution. mr. romney will go on and say in egypt the president and u.s. needs to attach our relationship with the egyptians based on some level to trade and try to encourage egypt to be more democracy minded. he'll go to then afghanistan and say that while he does believe that the u.s.'s with trawl from afghanistan ultimately is a reasonable thing to do the president was wrong to have telegraphed a timetable, that things are rapidly devolving there. he'll talk about syria and say that the united states should be looking for ways to insure that the rebels get tanks and armaments in order to fight bashar al-assad's oppression of them. one by one he'll go down and argue that barack obama and the obama administration have been quote, leading from behind and essentially passive in american foreign policy, and in that vane have relinquished the u.s. role of strength and security and
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moral leadership around the world. patti ann: carl, do you see a change in mitt romney's approach to foreign policy, as far as the campaign goes? >> reporter: well, the attack on the consulate in benghazi now more than three weeks ago, the romney campaign has been saying since that point that there would be a major foreign policy speech delivered and that it would be quite critical of president obama. but the truth is, his primary emphasis, romney's is jobs and the economy. they are making sure that he has got all the presidential issues, commander-in-chief being obviously a key one touched on, and there is in issue of questions about his foreign policy experience. he's a one-term governor of massachusetts and the obama campaign is out with a new ad that will run only in virginia but it's very critical of romney's recent trip to europe. here is a little sam blin sampling it. >> reckless, amateurish that's what news media and fellow republicans call romney's toufr israel, and pole land. when our u.s. diplomats were attacked in libya they said
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romney's response showed an extraordinary lack of character. >> it turns out that mr. romney's initial response was more accurate than what the administration said in terms of what was causing the violence and what was behind it, the fact that it was on the anniversary of 9/11 and there were a lot of cons let's and embassy as i attacked simultaneously on this day he will continue to hammer president obama on all the issues. foreign policy is a big part of this. this speech is seizing on what has been a string of policy collapses by the administration in the republican view. today they'll wrap it up all into one big speech four days away from the vice presidental debate which is likely to have a considerable amount of foreign policy in it. patti ann: thank you. bill: as we await that speech with more now senior romney campaign adviser eric fernstrom is back today. good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: i want you to react to the ad that carl just played here, the gaffe-filled trip to
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europe. how would the governor respond to that? >> well, look beings jus, just look around what is happening in the world today, bill. you're seeing an unraveling of the obama foreign policy. our enemies in the middle east are under seem. an american ambassador and three others were killed on the anniversary of 9/11. egypt is in the hands of the muslim brotherhood. israel has been set adrift to fend for themselves. iran is racing towards a nuclear bomb. this is the result of the obama doctrine of leading from behind. governor romney believes in peace through strength. president obama is going to be presiding over $1 trillion in defense cuts. this will further weaken our standing in the world, and embolden our adversaries even more. so you'll here governor romney talk about his foreign policy sreufgs a vision at the
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virginia military institute in a few moments. bill: part of the reason we brought you on today is we want to get a preview of how he is going to make a distinction between his policies, if he were president, and the policies of the past four years. what is the clearist difference, eric? >> instead of leading from behind, which is the slogan of the obama administration's foreign policy, governor romney will restore the doctrine of peace through strength, which has guided our presidents, both republican and democrat, since the end of world war ii, and specifically governor romney will reverse the devastating $1 trillion in defense cuts that president obama is presiding over. he'll reform foreign assistance to promote good governance and other positive outcomes and he'll stand resolutel b rest
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resolute tee with our allies, israel. bill: later in the month of october and the 22nd, it's a monday night in boca raton, florida, it's all about foreign policy. many of the things that the governor will be speaking about today as we await this speech will likely come up then n. the meantime you are seeing new polling numbers that have taken place after the debate. specifically from gallop when they show ace 5-point difference now between president obama and governor romney and how the numbers have chained since pre debate and post debate. what does the campaign think about that? >> well this is going to be a close contest. i think both sides will concede that this race is tight and it's going to remain tight right until election day. i do think it's a mooing some of the excuse-making coming out of the obama camp regarding president obama's debate performance last week that blamed everything from the
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altitude, to the moderator. over the weekend i saw reports that they were now blaming john kerry for doing a poor job as a stand in for governor romney during their mock debate sessions. look, it wasn't just a bad debate for president obama, it's been a bad four years. he just doesn't have the issues or the facts on his side. we have 23 million americans who are struggling for work, we have 47 million americans of record on food stamps. one in six americans living in poverty. this obama economy has not worked for people and we can't afford another four years like the last four. bill: you know what democrats are saying, they are saying that mitt romney was lying. that's the word they are using. james kleinsberg talked about. others talked about fabricating issues. what does the romney team say about those charges? >> i'll tell you, bill, this is
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a very petulant and unpresidential response from the obama campaign team. i tell you the big difference in that debate as i watched it is that governor romney came to it with very specific ideas about what he would do over the next four years. he talked about progrowth policies that would create jobs. he talked about transforming medicaid into a block grant so the states could run it more efficiently. he gave details about how he would preserve and strengthen and make more affordable our entitlement programs like medicare. and the president didn't have any details. he gave us empty platitudes on the public of medicare he made the rather unremarkable observation that our seniors depend on it. well we know that, the question is what are you going to do to strengthen at preserve it and make it solvent going into the future. governor romney had solutions for those issues, president
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obama had nothing, no vision, just empty platitudes. bill: we await the speech here, a vp debate on thursday night and we'll talk next week about how it goes in debate number 2. eric fernstrom thank you for being here out of boston today. thank you. patti ann: did hugo chavez really win the election in venezuela? did the other guy even have a chance? we'll show you the pictures that venezuela citizens are posting. they are raising eyebrows across the world. bill: and early start to snowboarding and ski season where the slopes in some places are already open for business. >> what did you do last weekend. >> i was water-skiing. >> this weekend you are? >> snowboarding. >> is that kind of nuts that in a week you can do that? >> yeah, it's pretty crazy.
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bill: 15 minutes before the hour. honda recalling nearly half a million crv crossovers in the
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u.s., european africa. an electrical switch in the 2002 to 2006 model years could melt and cause a fire. the number of children undergoing ca cat scans is on the rice up 15% in ten years. some day the tkr dramatic spike might be due to doctors practices defensive medicine. wide mountain in minnesota is the only ski resort to open this erie lee, the first in the nation to do so. operators said it was cold enough to start making snow and open up the slopes. they are on the mountain there in minnesota. patti ann: crazy. there are tanks on -pt street tanks on the streets in venezuela as hugo chavez claims victory. win inch a third time with 54% of the vote his slimmist margin of victories yet. the exit polls told a different story. we have a special ambassador to the u.n. thank you for joining us. we had venezuela citizens
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tweeting exit polls showing that the challenger actually won by several percentage points. is there any recourse here? >> there are elections coming up at the govern ship level and really reveal and be a referendum on what i see is a decline in chavez popularity. in terms of recourse it will be very challenging to overturn the election results. you have a highly technical election process. it's clear with chavez controlling the air wave, the election commission and pumping hundreds of millions of dollars into the provinces before the elections that it amounts to what i think would be at least a 5-point differential if this were a truly transparent and free election. patti ann: yeah, fenn there are no irregularities found at the poll as you say, they say chavez used state-controlled media to influence public opinion. he gave away pensions and houses essentially buying votes. is it even in pricing that
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chavez won by a much smaller margin than in the past? >> it is very surprising. this is a man who has ridden the oil revenue increase into basically a system where he's been able to maintain his popularity by redistributing wealth throughout the country. i think the fact that you saw this extraordinary candidate who traveled the country, and people openly embraced him at a time when a lot of people view chavez as a near god-like figure in the country shows that the opposition is coalescing, unifying and there is a real chance that the chavez era in the big bear is coming to an end. patti ann: how much is at stake for the united states in venezuelan politics? >> well it's really what chavez does on the international stage is of concern to us. of course we still have, you know, an oil trading system with venezuela, but it's relationships with countries like iran and cuba that really draw the most cons stern natio
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most cons tere nation for us. if castro was not supplying oil we'd see a change in the regime there. the same thing is concerning for a foothold for the ahmadinejad foothold which could look for other countries to stand up against the united states. patti ann: chavez is looking energetic lately but he's been battling cancer, other health issues as well. do you see him serving out his full term, and will health issues impact his ability to do that? >> well, i don't know exactly what his prognosis is, although what we understand is it's pretty serious, so it's a six-year term, the chances of him serving that full term unlikely in my view. that said we've already seen a decline in energy, a decline in engagement, in public events, and that has allowed candidates like his challenger to come forward and sort of fill the
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vacuum. one of mr. chavez' strengths was his ability to be on television for four hours at a time, haranguing the united states, talking about helping the poor, and he's not been able to be that visible. so i do think it's going to have an impact and i don't think he'll serve out his taoerp term. bill: jon scott standing by "happening now" rolling live. jon: we are minutes away from a major foreign policy speech by governor mitt romney. he is likely to take president obama to task on his policies, everything from afghanistan, to libya. we will have his speech and in-depth analysis after. polling on the race for the white house, how big a bump did mr. romney get from his strong debate performance? are the main street media losing their love affair with president obama? signs of distress?
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hour news watch panel weighs in, we'll have it on "happening now." bill: happy monday on this columbus day. the unemployment rate got plenty of attention when it dropped to 7.5%. another number could spell big trouble for the economy. we'll tell you what that is moments away. patti ann: police say they acted just in time to prevent churches from being hit at terrorism. we'll tell you what they found at a hotel and how quick thinking may have saved a lot of lives. >> we just leaf the room as calm as we could be, we told the girls 911? my stomach still churns thinking about it. that make kids happy. and even fewer that make moms happy too. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do.
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patti ann: an illinois man is facing charges under federal anti-terror laws, he's accused of plotting to bomb dozen of oklahoma khoeufrps. they arrested gregory wheeler at an oklahoma motel where he
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stayed for the last two weeks. they found dozens of gasoline bombs and a map showing the locateses of 48 churches in his room. motel employees alerted police after doing a maintenance check. >> he let us right n. i noticed he went over and turned his computer off, and then we walked around thed of the bed and they noticed there were fibers on the floor and i seen duct tape and scissors over there. >> his family claims he's suffering from mental illness. bill: troubling news on the economy according to the labor department it reports that the u.s. manufacturing sector was badly hit for a second straight month, losing 16,000 jobs in september alone. our chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel on this story. good morning, mike. look at the numbers. who is maybe being the better case on the economy? >> reporter: they are both making their best pitch. it's a really important sector of our economy with close to 12 million americans working in manufacturing. and those in manufacturing say progrowth policies and action are needed now. governor romney in ohio recently made this pitch.
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>> look, we've now gone four years, in four years we've lost 582,000 manufacturing jobs. 582,000. this -- we can't afford four more years like the last four years. we've got to get this economy going again. [applause] those in manufacturing say more certainly in the economy in terms of taxes and government spending are needed, bill. bill: what does president obama contend that he would do better if he's reelected? >> reporter: at the democratic national convention president obama said after a decade of decline the country created more than a half million manufacturing jobs in the past two and a half years, and he's promising to do more in a second term. >> we can help big fact there's and small businesses double their exports, and if we choose this path we can create a million new manufacturing jobs in the next four years. you can make that happen. you can choose that future. >> reporter: clearly manufacturing is a critical sector of the economy
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particularly across the midwest in battleground states, like ohio and many others, bill. bill: we'll watch that. thank you, mike emanuel live in washington. patti ann: we are now just minutes away from the start of governor mitt romney's remarks at the virginia military institute. his speech expected to cover a range of foreign policy topics. we'll take you there live as soon as it gets underway. i'm barack obama, and i approve this message. "i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan."
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